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Comment by brianhancock on May 1, 2013 at 3:25am

A few years ago now Nate Versluis beat me and 40 others at Holland with no brakes.  I'm not kidding.  The whole brake thing is obviously highly overrated.

Comment by Adam_Mac on April 30, 2013 at 6:45pm

I just got a sweet kickback brake for my CX bike... stole it off my niece's bike... can't wait to drift some corners

Comment by Randy Arellano on April 30, 2013 at 11:29am

I agree with you Marc, on the issue of an across the board change to discs. I feel CX is the perfect market that supports both the disc AND canti frame options. And Paul, I hear ya! At last year's Peak2Peak race, in the rain, mud, and sand, almost every racer (pro to beginner) experienced disc brake issues. Interestingly, it were the riders with hydros that had the worst incidents - locking up, clogging, failures, etc. Most riders with mech discs seemed to fair ok. But then, that's the one advantage of mech v hydro - adjustability.

Comment by Surly Bastard on April 30, 2013 at 11:01am

I love hydraulic discs on my mountain bike for control in tight spots and downhills, so don't think I hate discs, but I've heard of the problem you referenced (Paul) of that thin pad disappearing in certain conditions. That certainly was the case with cross bikes at Nats this year. I think if somebody wants discs on their cross bikes that's cool but all of the major manufacturers are going to all discs with no canti option. Thankfully I'm so old that my equipment will outlive me, so i don't have to worry. I just think the industry pushing an across the board change to an unproven design, to create a new profit center, is unsavory. 

Comment by Paul Steigerwald on April 30, 2013 at 10:29am

Hi Patrick.  Yep, Scott does great work, his prices are actually fantastic compared to other custom builders too.

Stock bikes are getting so freaking expensive that custom frames are starting to make more and more sense, especially if you aren't satisfied with stock geometry.  I HATE the toe overlap with the front wheel that I get with every stock 56 cm frame I have tried, Scott got rid of the problem in a way that the bike still turns on a dime.

I still ride the same speed no matter what type of frame I ride though:)

Comment by Paul Steigerwald on April 30, 2013 at 10:20am

Hi Randy, my reason for not wanting discs on my cross bike is from personal experience.  As such, I might be the only guy out there who has had a problem and I'm not trying to change anyone's mind:)  My beef with discs is that in the first half lap of the Brighton Rec MTB race a couple of years back (the rainy one)they completely died and I had to Fred Flintstone it back to the Start/Finish.  It was rainy that day but not a hurricane or anything, and there was some sand but no thick mud.  My MTB hydro disc brakes just died and I had no stopping power at all, freaking zero.  Absolutely terrible grinding noise I hope to never hear again:(  I'm not suggesting that anyone abandon discs for MTB, if folks want to try discs for road or cross by all means I want them to love it and I am sure it will work for many of them just fine.  I probably just wasn't meant for discs.

Cantis suck sometimes but I have always been able to slow down and stop when I have to.  Discs failed me in their perfect environment, I'm not taking a chance with them in cross.

 

 

Comment by Randy Arellano on April 30, 2013 at 8:53am

Honestly, marketing is what the bike business is all about. They gotta make their money somehow. ;-)

I may be in the minority here, but I actually like the idea of discs for CX bikes. The thing I believe the bike industry is doing wrong is focusing their marketing on disc braking power, when really, the thing I think it best provides is more consistent braking performance and modulation. I agree with a lot of others that you don't necessarily need a lot of braking power for 'cross. But if you can improve braking consistency and modulation through varying conditions I think that's a big plus. And hell, it'll save your rims too - unless you're a sponsored pro who can get as many wheels as you want. But hey, I like geeking out on bikes so take it fwiw. ;-)

Comment by Patrick McEnaney on April 30, 2013 at 8:41am

I think I've seen your geared bike in the B-races for Mad Anthony and Tailwind, Paul; correct?

Your belt-drive single is spectacular, enjoy!

Beautiful rides and I've known Scott for many years. I ran into him recently at the St. Fatty's Day snow-bike races and he showed me the two fat bikes he's built for himself and wifey. I will eventually have a cx bike from Scott, gotta save my pennies.

Comment by Paul Steigerwald on April 29, 2013 at 1:35pm

Scott Quiring already did profit from it, both my Ti bikes are from him:)  Made in Michigan!!!

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Comment by Surly Bastard on April 29, 2013 at 1:25pm
Nothing against belt drives - and yeah Gunnar and Quiring are sweet bikes. They could prove to profit from this squeeze play.
 

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