cx technique - push or carry the bike on a run-up ? - Cyclocross Magazine2024-03-28T12:03:35Zhttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/forum/topics/1198434:Topic:4047?commentId=1198434%3AComment%3A4504&feed=yes&xn_auth=nothat's almost hard to watch!tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2008-12-01:1198434:Comment:197272008-12-01T22:53:28.218ZBooksyhttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/Booksy
that's almost hard to watch!
that's almost hard to watch! Thanks for the Video.
Seems…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2008-12-01:1198434:Comment:197242008-12-01T22:45:49.138ZBooksyhttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/Booksy
Thanks for the Video.<br />
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Seems like steeper, more uneven terrain is faster to shoulder it. Several of our courses have had short, not so steep run ups after barriers and it was easier to let the bike carry itself, but I think once the angle goes up and/or the bike becomes harder to push (up a hill, through sand, over bumpy terrain) it makes a lot more sense to shoulder it.
Thanks for the Video.<br />
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Seems like steeper, more uneven terrain is faster to shoulder it. Several of our courses have had short, not so steep run ups after barriers and it was easier to let the bike carry itself, but I think once the angle goes up and/or the bike becomes harder to push (up a hill, through sand, over bumpy terrain) it makes a lot more sense to shoulder it. Uphill bike toss. Brilliant V…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2008-07-22:1198434:Comment:46242008-07-22T04:37:23.112ZSurly Bastardhttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/SurlyBastard
Uphill bike toss. Brilliant Vanwacx. Much better than the carry or the push which anybody can do. That's why you are ,er, der vunderkind Vanwacx.<br />
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Now you need to make the training video: grab the rear wheel, spin on your heels like a hammer throw and let it fly. That's why you take two bikes, right?<br />
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You can score the take-downs (like we do on our winter rides here in MI):<br />
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Strike: All of em go down. Sweet toss!<br />
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Spare: take down one or more<br />
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Split: got the one in the middle!<br />
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Gutter: damn,…
Uphill bike toss. Brilliant Vanwacx. Much better than the carry or the push which anybody can do. That's why you are ,er, der vunderkind Vanwacx.<br />
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Now you need to make the training video: grab the rear wheel, spin on your heels like a hammer throw and let it fly. That's why you take two bikes, right?<br />
<br />
You can score the take-downs (like we do on our winter rides here in MI):<br />
<br />
Strike: All of em go down. Sweet toss!<br />
<br />
Spare: take down one or more<br />
<br />
Split: got the one in the middle!<br />
<br />
Gutter: damn, missed em all Personally, I like to toss my…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2008-07-18:1198434:Comment:45042008-07-18T22:09:55.640Zvanwacxhttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/vanwacx
Personally, I like to toss my bike up the hill and then run up after it. I find it much easier to run without my bike. As a bonus, sometimes my bike will take out one or two of the guys I'm chasing, instantly improving my race position.
Personally, I like to toss my bike up the hill and then run up after it. I find it much easier to run without my bike. As a bonus, sometimes my bike will take out one or two of the guys I'm chasing, instantly improving my race position. Somehow, this clip was mentio…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2008-07-18:1198434:Comment:44812008-07-18T18:52:51.280ZHenryhttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/Henry
Somehow, this clip was mentioned on one German forum. They have some interesting vintage (circa 1931) cx photos in this thread:<br />
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<a href="http://eingangradforum.de/thread.php?postid=495756">http://eingangradforum.de/thread.php?postid=495756</a>
Somehow, this clip was mentioned on one German forum. They have some interesting vintage (circa 1931) cx photos in this thread:<br />
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<a href="http://eingangradforum.de/thread.php?postid=495756">http://eingangradforum.de/thread.php?postid=495756</a> as most of you have mentioned…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2008-07-10:1198434:Comment:41082008-07-10T23:11:04.529ZDa Baggahhttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/DaBaggah
as most of you have mentioned, it all depends on the terrain for me.<br />
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when i push my bike, i sort of lean on it (weird...i know) to take some of the weight off my legs and give them a little relief.<br />
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i actually think i run faster while pushing the bike vs. shouldering it. but that's me.<br />
i should experiment 1 day...<br />
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there are 2 times when i definitely don't push my bike:<br />
1) when it takes me any type of extra effort to push the bike on the terrain<br />
- my rule of thumb is if i'm running with the…
as most of you have mentioned, it all depends on the terrain for me.<br />
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when i push my bike, i sort of lean on it (weird...i know) to take some of the weight off my legs and give them a little relief.<br />
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i actually think i run faster while pushing the bike vs. shouldering it. but that's me.<br />
i should experiment 1 day...<br />
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there are 2 times when i definitely don't push my bike:<br />
1) when it takes me any type of extra effort to push the bike on the terrain<br />
- my rule of thumb is if i'm running with the bike at my side and the bike is falling behind me, it's time to pick it up<br />
- instances where this would happen would be heavy/sticky mud, steep run-ups, sand, etc.<br />
2) when i want to block folks from coming around me<br />
- bottlenecked sections that are easily rideable, but someone dabbed and everyone is off their bike. instead of pushing, i carry my bike to prevent the hoards from sneaking around the sides.<br />
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for instance, there was 1 race where the barriers were spaced about 40 or so feet apart. it wasn't really worth hopping back on the bike (since it was off-camber and rutted) and the surface was hardpacked dirt. so, the 1st lap, i shouldered the bike since there was a bottleneck and i didn't want the over anxious folks behind me passing all over the place. every lap after that, I pushed the bike since there was no extra effort required to roll the bike on the dirt. then, if someone wanted to pass me since the race settled in, i'd give them plenty of room to get by.<br />
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da baggah ...practice them all and use…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2008-07-10:1198434:Comment:40822008-07-10T17:44:57.094ZHenryhttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/Henry
...practice them all and use which ever gets you to the top the fastest...<br />
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Sometimes, getting to the top calls for using whatever means necessary:<br />
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<a href="http://www.cyclocrossvideos.com/cx/1998_cx/1998_Ft_Devens_Supercup_Elite_Women_Run-up.html">http://www.cyclocrossvideos.com/cx/1998_cx/1998_Ft_Devens_Supercup_Elite_Women_Run-up.html…</a>
...practice them all and use which ever gets you to the top the fastest...<br />
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Sometimes, getting to the top calls for using whatever means necessary:<br />
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<a href="http://www.cyclocrossvideos.com/cx/1998_cx/1998_Ft_Devens_Supercup_Elite_Women_Run-up.html">http://www.cyclocrossvideos.com/cx/1998_cx/1998_Ft_Devens_Supercup_Elite_Women_Run-up.html</a><br />
<a href="http://www.cyclocrossvideos.com/cx/1998_cx/1998_Ft_Devens_Supercup_Elite_Men_Run-up.html">http://www.cyclocrossvideos.com/cx/1998_cx/1998_Ft_Devens_Supercup_Elite_Men_Run-up.html</a> good idea gewilli about the p…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2008-07-10:1198434:Comment:40772008-07-10T17:30:16.157Zandrewhttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/cyclocross
good idea gewilli about the poll.<br />
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regarding timmy, see Issue 2, page 26. it's in there but you gotta look hard with the small font.
good idea gewilli about the poll.<br />
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regarding timmy, see Issue 2, page 26. it's in there but you gotta look hard with the small font. I'll add that upon reflection…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2008-07-10:1198434:Comment:40752008-07-10T16:36:17.321ZGeWillihttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/GeWilli
I'll add that upon reflection, there are times when you want to ride, times when you want to run and times when you want to push...<br />
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practice them all and use which ever gets you to the top the fastest...<br />
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Timmie doesn't do any running for CX? Hmmm.<br />
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Hey andrew... there's your next PRO POLL column for the mag. Ask a lot of the top Pro's a specific question and compare answers:<br />
"Do you run as part of your CX prep?"<br />
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(just an idea)
I'll add that upon reflection, there are times when you want to ride, times when you want to run and times when you want to push...<br />
<br />
practice them all and use which ever gets you to the top the fastest...<br />
<br />
Timmie doesn't do any running for CX? Hmmm.<br />
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Hey andrew... there's your next PRO POLL column for the mag. Ask a lot of the top Pro's a specific question and compare answers:<br />
"Do you run as part of your CX prep?"<br />
<br />
(just an idea) a few other variables that ca…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2008-07-09:1198434:Comment:40642008-07-09T23:40:38.809Zandrewhttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/cyclocross
a few other variables that can help determine the best choice can be the type of surface. i find when it's thick, goopy mud, you're so much better off picking it up to avoid accumulating all that crap on your bike.<br />
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but yet, when it's supper greasy, slick mud that doesn't stick to the bike, i've pushed the bike if only because it helped me avoid falling on my face and looking even more foolish than normal.<br />
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interesting that timmy was the runner in that granogue race...he doesn't really even run…
a few other variables that can help determine the best choice can be the type of surface. i find when it's thick, goopy mud, you're so much better off picking it up to avoid accumulating all that crap on your bike.<br />
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but yet, when it's supper greasy, slick mud that doesn't stick to the bike, i've pushed the bike if only because it helped me avoid falling on my face and looking even more foolish than normal.<br />
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interesting that timmy was the runner in that granogue race...he doesn't really even run during training for cx and has great handling skills so could have probably ridden the climb if he wanted.