Lapped!!!! - Cyclocross Magazine2024-03-29T06:31:05Zhttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/forum/topics/1198434:Topic:9910?feed=yes&xn_auth=noIn my very limited experience…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2008-09-23:1198434:Comment:102012008-09-23T01:27:57.205ZMichael Schlitzerhttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/MichaelSchlitzer
In my very limited experience, if you're not with the first guys through the first time, the scoring is essentially random.<br />
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Last year at this race I had a major mechanical and got lapped by the leaders at the very end. Of course, they awarded me 8th place.<br />
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This year, I'm reasonably certain that I finished somewhere in the top 60 of the C men, but didn't even rate a DNF. No disrespect to the refs, but they have no clue about finishing order after the first bunch that they can recognize. It's a…
In my very limited experience, if you're not with the first guys through the first time, the scoring is essentially random.<br />
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Last year at this race I had a major mechanical and got lapped by the leaders at the very end. Of course, they awarded me 8th place.<br />
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This year, I'm reasonably certain that I finished somewhere in the top 60 of the C men, but didn't even rate a DNF. No disrespect to the refs, but they have no clue about finishing order after the first bunch that they can recognize. It's a guessing game.<br />
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The course is littered with bodies, women, juniors, old guys, whatever in the non-elite events. Essentially, your finishing position shouldn't matter to you because it will never be right without going to some sort of electronic timing chip and software that would automatically define what lap you're on.<br />
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Having said that, I plan to keep on racing as much as I can stand. Nobody's searching middle of the pack Cat 4s for sponsorship anyway. First, 50th, or DFL, it's just fun. Everyone finishes on the same…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2008-09-22:1198434:Comment:101582008-09-22T21:14:30.652ZColin Reuterhttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/ColinReuter
Everyone finishes on the same lap. Despite what the rulebook says, lapped racers are almost never pulled in non-elite events.
Everyone finishes on the same lap. Despite what the rulebook says, lapped racers are almost never pulled in non-elite events. I think it was one extra lap…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2008-09-22:1198434:Comment:100962008-09-22T18:12:23.929ZBraintastichttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/Braintastic
I think it was one extra lap since the race was over, I just went around once more for extra credit. The results came out today and it counted at least.
I think it was one extra lap since the race was over, I just went around once more for extra credit. The results came out today and it counted at least. Actually, you did 1 less lap.…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2008-09-22:1198434:Comment:100912008-09-22T17:36:49.094ZDa Baggahhttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/DaBaggah
Actually, you did 1 less lap.<br />
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Let's say your race was 6 laps.<br />
When you went through the finish, the lap cards said 2 to go. So you are starting your 5th lap.<br />
When the leader came through the finish (right behind you) he already saw the 2 to go and now gets the bell lap for the 6th and final lap.<br />
Since he passes you somewhere along that final lap, he crosses the finish line in front of you and wins the race completing 6 total laps.<br />
Since his race is done, you are done once you cross the finish…
Actually, you did 1 less lap.<br />
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Let's say your race was 6 laps.<br />
When you went through the finish, the lap cards said 2 to go. So you are starting your 5th lap.<br />
When the leader came through the finish (right behind you) he already saw the 2 to go and now gets the bell lap for the 6th and final lap.<br />
Since he passes you somewhere along that final lap, he crosses the finish line in front of you and wins the race completing 6 total laps.<br />
Since his race is done, you are done once you cross the finish line even though that was your 5th lap.<br />
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I just used 6 laps as an example. Typically, cross races are time based and the laps are determined after the first few laps are run. Then the director of the race determines how many more laps can fit in the given time duration for the race. Some races are time + 1 lap. It all depends. This is done so the races can…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2008-09-22:1198434:Comment:100692008-09-22T15:53:14.828Zvelocyclinghttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/DougAldrich
This is done so the races can run in a timely manner. If all the racers, finished the all laps the later race would run well into the night. When you hear the officials ring the bell( not the <b>crowd</b>) that is the final lap. This allows for all the racers to race the entire race. Otherwise, the officials would pull lapped riders. This happens in most crits.
This is done so the races can run in a timely manner. If all the racers, finished the all laps the later race would run well into the night. When you hear the officials ring the bell( not the <b>crowd</b>) that is the final lap. This allows for all the racers to race the entire race. Otherwise, the officials would pull lapped riders. This happens in most crits. This is from the USAC ruleboo…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2008-09-22:1198434:Comment:100462008-09-22T15:23:47.533ZBraintastichttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/Braintastic
This is from the USAC rulebook CX section:<br />
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5G. Finish<br />
5G1. Any rider lapped before the last lap shall leave the race<br />
(unless stated differently prior to the race); if the lapping<br />
takes place after the midpoint of the race the rider shall be<br />
given a place. Lapped riders who are permitted to remain in<br />
the race will all finish on the same lap as the leader and will<br />
be placed according to the number of laps they are down and<br />
then their position at the finish.<br />
5G2. In championship events a rider…
This is from the USAC rulebook CX section:<br />
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5G. Finish<br />
5G1. Any rider lapped before the last lap shall leave the race<br />
(unless stated differently prior to the race); if the lapping<br />
takes place after the midpoint of the race the rider shall be<br />
given a place. Lapped riders who are permitted to remain in<br />
the race will all finish on the same lap as the leader and will<br />
be placed according to the number of laps they are down and<br />
then their position at the finish.<br />
5G2. In championship events a rider who is lapped during the<br />
final lap of the race shall be stopped at the beginning of the<br />
10 1<br />
finish line area and shall be classified in accordance with their<br />
placing without crossing the finish line.<br />
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Clear as mud? So I guess I did an extra lap then...;) I don't get it. Is it still n…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2008-09-22:1198434:Comment:100212008-09-22T13:50:03.123Znodealhttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/Cameron
I don't get it. Is it still not just the order you cross the line on your final lap? Does the lapped rider's race end one lap early?
I don't get it. Is it still not just the order you cross the line on your final lap? Does the lapped rider's race end one lap early? Right, all makes sense. I rea…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2008-09-22:1198434:Comment:100192008-09-22T13:38:26.992ZBraintastichttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/Braintastic
Right, all makes sense. I read a while ago that lapped riders got dropped from the race. That I guess is what prompted my confusion. Not knowing, even if I finished all required laps, if I was lapped does it still count or is it a DNF. Maybe I should have asked that in the first place.<br />
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Thanks
Right, all makes sense. I read a while ago that lapped riders got dropped from the race. That I guess is what prompted my confusion. Not knowing, even if I finished all required laps, if I was lapped does it still count or is it a DNF. Maybe I should have asked that in the first place.<br />
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Thanks placing is pretty straightfor…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2008-09-22:1198434:Comment:99682008-09-22T04:53:24.019ZDa Baggahhttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/DaBaggah
placing is pretty straightforward...<br />
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the winner gets 1st place. everyone on the lead lap gets whatever place they finished in.<br />
if you got lapped some time during the race, your are now 1 lap down from the leaders (obviously). so, for all lapped riders, you get placed behind the last guy on the lead lap in whatever order you finish in.<br />
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so even if you finished 2nd right behind the winner (the winner just nips you at the line), and there are 75 people on the lead lap (folks who didn't get lapped…
placing is pretty straightforward...<br />
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the winner gets 1st place. everyone on the lead lap gets whatever place they finished in.<br />
if you got lapped some time during the race, your are now 1 lap down from the leaders (obviously). so, for all lapped riders, you get placed behind the last guy on the lead lap in whatever order you finish in.<br />
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so even if you finished 2nd right behind the winner (the winner just nips you at the line), and there are 75 people on the lead lap (folks who didn't get lapped by the leader), you get 76th place.<br />
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make sense?<br />
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oh...and good job racin'! Good job just getting out the…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2008-09-22:1198434:Comment:99382008-09-22T01:26:37.431Zcxchivahttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/cxchiva
Good job just getting out there. Realize that good starts are super important, so getting up at the front and establishing yourself in the first few laps is crucial. I wish I raced today.
Good job just getting out there. Realize that good starts are super important, so getting up at the front and establishing yourself in the first few laps is crucial. I wish I raced today.