Anyone tried the new carbon-bead Hutchinson tubeless Bulldog tires? - Cyclocross Magazine2024-03-28T17:19:06Zhttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/forum/topics/anyone-tried-the-new?x=1&id=1198434%3ATopic%3A70573&feed=yes&xn_auth=noJBH, great question. I wonder…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2013-12-11:1198434:Comment:1509182013-12-11T22:37:12.275Zandrewhttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/cyclocross
<p>JBH, great question. I wondered that for a while.</p>
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<p>The carbon bead version has horizontal lines underneath the tread, going width-wise across the tire. Small, but visible and you can feel them. The older tires do not. That's my own observation. </p>
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<p>Just so you know, the Toro, the Bulldog replacement, is back in the Hutchinson catalog, in a tubeless option, and in the 34c width! The Mamba will be tubeless too, but in 32c (guessing the mold is better suited for 32c…</p>
<p>JBH, great question. I wondered that for a while.</p>
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<p>The carbon bead version has horizontal lines underneath the tread, going width-wise across the tire. Small, but visible and you can feel them. The older tires do not. That's my own observation. </p>
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<p>Just so you know, the Toro, the Bulldog replacement, is back in the Hutchinson catalog, in a tubeless option, and in the 34c width! The Mamba will be tubeless too, but in 32c (guessing the mold is better suited for 32c tire, since it's a newer mold). I can't tell you how exciting it is to see another high volume tubeless option out there, after so many companies moved towards UCI regulations for tubeless tires, when almost every UCI racer (except the NoTubes team) rides tubulars in UCI races. It's a shape the Captain 2bliss went away. </p>
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<p>I'm supposed to get a test set of Tubeless Toro tires shortly. </p> I'm a bit late to the tubeles…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2013-12-11:1198434:Comment:1509892013-12-11T18:19:11.897ZJBHhttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/JBH
<p>I'm a bit late to the tubeless CX tire game. I just picked up a pair of Shimano Ultegra Tubeless wheels with one worn out Bulldog 34c silver tread carbon bead tubeless tire, and the other Bulldog with a 2mm cut (Stan’s sealant wouldn't seal cut). I patched the cut (shoe goo and an small piece of Conti GP side wall), and remounted. It required 86 psi to pop the bead in place (running Stan’s sealant). Love the ride, I can drop to 26-28 psi without hitting the rim (180Lbs in kit), below 26 and…</p>
<p>I'm a bit late to the tubeless CX tire game. I just picked up a pair of Shimano Ultegra Tubeless wheels with one worn out Bulldog 34c silver tread carbon bead tubeless tire, and the other Bulldog with a 2mm cut (Stan’s sealant wouldn't seal cut). I patched the cut (shoe goo and an small piece of Conti GP side wall), and remounted. It required 86 psi to pop the bead in place (running Stan’s sealant). Love the ride, I can drop to 26-28 psi without hitting the rim (180Lbs in kit), below 26 and I'm hitting the rim on roots. No burps, sidewall is stiff at low psi so they don't feel squirmy and the front tire doesn't roll in fast corners. My 32c Vittoria's Cross XG Pro TNT on the same wheel are just too narrow, small side knobs don't dig in well on off-camber corners, and the sidewalls are too flexy at anything lower than 32 psi.</p>
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<p>Question. How can you confirm a non-carbon bead Bulldog 34c from a carbon bead version? The tire package shows a logo for carbon bead, but where on the tires does it indicate the differences? I found a pair of 34 silver Bulldogs with less than two races on them, but seller has no clue if they are carbon beaded versions.</p>
<p> </p> I just installed some new car…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2010-10-28:1198434:Comment:723562010-10-28T19:58:23.525ZDave Flanaryhttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/DaveFlanary
I just installed some new carbon Bullodgs last nite. They may fit a little tighter than the old ones, but weren't a problem on my Easton EA90SLX rims. Given the tighter fit, lower pressures should be doable. I'll find out soon!
I just installed some new carbon Bullodgs last nite. They may fit a little tighter than the old ones, but weren't a problem on my Easton EA90SLX rims. Given the tighter fit, lower pressures should be doable. I'll find out soon! Finally got out and rode on t…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2010-10-27:1198434:Comment:721612010-10-27T20:58:26.031ZCosmo Catalanohttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/CosmoCatalano
Finally got out and rode on the one undamaged tire (running front)—gotta say it was pretty nice at ~32psi. I'm 165 with a bad track record of flats and I've been exclusively on clinchers before.<br></br>
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Got a little seeping on the (paved) ride out to the West Hartford Reservoir, but when I starting hitting the bony stuff and hard corners on the grass, I got no burps, and the tire had good give on roots/rocks. Lots of bite in the corners, too—took a while to get my head around how little I…
Finally got out and rode on the one undamaged tire (running front)—gotta say it was pretty nice at ~32psi. I'm 165 with a bad track record of flats and I've been exclusively on clinchers before.<br/>
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Got a little seeping on the (paved) ride out to the West Hartford Reservoir, but when I starting hitting the bony stuff and hard corners on the grass, I got no burps, and the tire had good give on roots/rocks. Lots of bite in the corners, too—took a while to get my head around how little I needed to brake on pretty familiar terrain.<br/>
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But again, my only prior experience was a pair of clinchers, in use since 2006. Just mounted up a pair of hut…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2010-10-27:1198434:Comment:721592010-10-27T20:42:11.517ZKimanihttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/Kimani
Just mounted up a pair of hutchinson tubless with the carbon bead. Running the bulldog on the front and the pirahna on the rear. Mounted these on a shimano dura ace road tubeless wheelset and it wasn't bad at all. Tires went on with minimal struggle and the bead locks in very well once inflated. I have yet to race them though. Jury is still out on performance at low psi. From what i have read things should go well.
Just mounted up a pair of hutchinson tubless with the carbon bead. Running the bulldog on the front and the pirahna on the rear. Mounted these on a shimano dura ace road tubeless wheelset and it wasn't bad at all. Tires went on with minimal struggle and the bead locks in very well once inflated. I have yet to race them though. Jury is still out on performance at low psi. From what i have read things should go well. Sounds like you broke the bea…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2010-10-26:1198434:Comment:720132010-10-26T15:41:44.540ZCosmo Catalanohttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/CosmoCatalano
Sounds like you broke the bead. I had a similar problem with a pair of Easton Ascent II wheels (which ues Velocity Aerohead rims, I believe). Taking the stock rim strip out—despite Stan's instructions not to—finally let me get the tire on, but when it came time to inflate, it just slips off on one side. Not sure it will even take a tube now.
Sounds like you broke the bead. I had a similar problem with a pair of Easton Ascent II wheels (which ues Velocity Aerohead rims, I believe). Taking the stock rim strip out—despite Stan's instructions not to—finally let me get the tire on, but when it came time to inflate, it just slips off on one side. Not sure it will even take a tube now. Bah. I knew it. Well, I see w…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2010-10-26:1198434:Comment:719972010-10-26T15:12:13.293ZCosmo Catalanohttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/CosmoCatalano
Bah. I knew it. Well, I see what I can do.<br />
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Returning to the thread, I have finally managed to get the front wheel set up (rear rim has a ding that won't seal) with the undamaged tire of my pair and it's holding air well, even without sealant. Fit is very tight—can't hand burp it at 35psi. Haven't put it through it's paces yet.<br />
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The broken-bead tire, meanwhile, won't seat correctly, even with a tube. Probably not going to field-test that setup.
Bah. I knew it. Well, I see what I can do.<br />
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Returning to the thread, I have finally managed to get the front wheel set up (rear rim has a ding that won't seal) with the undamaged tire of my pair and it's holding air well, even without sealant. Fit is very tight—can't hand burp it at 35psi. Haven't put it through it's paces yet.<br />
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The broken-bead tire, meanwhile, won't seat correctly, even with a tube. Probably not going to field-test that setup. Thanks for the info Andrew, t…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2010-10-26:1198434:Comment:719962010-10-26T14:58:40.270ZTony Churchhttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/TonyChurch
Thanks for the info Andrew, that seems consistent with my experience. The carbon bead hutchinson's are tough to get on, but mine haven't burped at all and I'm loving the low pressures and reliability!
Thanks for the info Andrew, that seems consistent with my experience. The carbon bead hutchinson's are tough to get on, but mine haven't burped at all and I'm loving the low pressures and reliability! I did warranty mine through t…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2010-10-26:1198434:Comment:719952010-10-26T14:56:52.345ZTony Churchhttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/TonyChurch
I did warranty mine through the shop.
I did warranty mine through the shop. Did you warranty through the…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2010-10-26:1198434:Comment:719922010-10-26T14:41:14.097ZCosmo Catalanohttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/CosmoCatalano
Did you warranty through the shop? My Bulldog bead gave up the ghost during mounting as well. Easton Ascent II's, converted with a Stan's kit if anyone's curious. Ignore Stan's advice about leaving the rim strip on for those wheels—the tire won't go on unless you take it off (or you break the bead). That should go for Velocity Aeroheads as well, since they're pretty much the same rime.
Did you warranty through the shop? My Bulldog bead gave up the ghost during mounting as well. Easton Ascent II's, converted with a Stan's kit if anyone's curious. Ignore Stan's advice about leaving the rim strip on for those wheels—the tire won't go on unless you take it off (or you break the bead). That should go for Velocity Aeroheads as well, since they're pretty much the same rime.