Are there more people on Campy in CX than Road? Who's gonna run the new ergos? And other Campy stuff. - Cyclocross Magazine2024-03-29T07:18:21Zhttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/forum/topics/are-there-more-people-on-campy?commentId=1198434%3AComment%3A30164&feed=yes&xn_auth=noHey guys,
I'd definately rec…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2010-02-17:1198434:Comment:514082010-02-17T20:52:45.733ZNev Mhttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/NevMedhurst
Hey guys,<br />
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I'd definately recommend going with a 3rd party crank, not only do Campy run odd bcd size rings as already mentioned but also the Ultra Torque cranks have the bearings fitted to the crank spindle as opposed to being in the bb cups. This means that replacing bearings will need to be done at the lbs. Practically all other crank designs these days have the bearings fitted in the bb cups which means replacing is simple.
Hey guys,<br />
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I'd definately recommend going with a 3rd party crank, not only do Campy run odd bcd size rings as already mentioned but also the Ultra Torque cranks have the bearings fitted to the crank spindle as opposed to being in the bb cups. This means that replacing bearings will need to be done at the lbs. Practically all other crank designs these days have the bearings fitted in the bb cups which means replacing is simple. Ok, they still didn't give me…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2010-02-15:1198434:Comment:512642010-02-15T18:40:48.506ZRichhttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/RichardDort
Ok, they still didn't give me all the info I wanted, but here's what I have, some of which you already knew.<br />
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Athena Compact : Nerius11 38/48. Not perfect, but close. The only 10 speed 'ring in a 46t is the Solano, but I believe it is too thin to fit right. It's for Centaur and below UT cranksets. So that's your only option.<br />
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Athena Standard: No 46t in 11 speed, yet. However, as I believe you can get away with 10 speed 'rings on 11 speed drive trains, a single Vento 46t would give you a 39/46…
Ok, they still didn't give me all the info I wanted, but here's what I have, some of which you already knew.<br />
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Athena Compact : Nerius11 38/48. Not perfect, but close. The only 10 speed 'ring in a 46t is the Solano, but I believe it is too thin to fit right. It's for Centaur and below UT cranksets. So that's your only option.<br />
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Athena Standard: No 46t in 11 speed, yet. However, as I believe you can get away with 10 speed 'rings on 11 speed drive trains, a single Vento 46t would give you a 39/46 crank.<br />
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The "perfect" option is to get a Centaur or below 10spd UT crankset (avoiding '07/'08 alloy Centaur) and a Solano 46t outer, and Nerius 38t inner.<br />
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Personally I'd probably go with a 135 bcd 39/46 and a 12-27 cassette. The nicer thing about that cassette is that it shares all the same cogs as the new 12-29, except for the first 3 gears (23-25-27 vs 23-26-29). So for $75 at Bikeman.com you buy that carrier and you effectively have 2 cassettes. Need easier gearing, take the cassette off and swap out the biggest cogs (top 3 are all attached to one carrier).<br />
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I hope that helps,<br />
Rich I have has some correspondenc…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2010-02-14:1198434:Comment:511082010-02-14T02:13:19.175ZRichhttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/RichardDort
I have has some correspondence with TA, but they seem to have habit of not giving me all the info I need, and their website is less than stellar. I'm sorry for the wait.
I have has some correspondence with TA, but they seem to have habit of not giving me all the info I need, and their website is less than stellar. I'm sorry for the wait. The Nerius line is available…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2010-02-05:1198434:Comment:507862010-02-05T22:55:04.126ZRichhttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/RichardDort
The Nerius line is available here in the US, it's the Solano line that isn't. I'd just ask you LBS if they have EURO-ASIA IMPORTS as one of their distributors. Having gone back through all my e-mails. The new 11 speed is a bit of a mystery to me as far as cross compatibility. I suspect you can use 11 and 10spd rings interchangeably with out even noticing, but I'm not sure. At this moment in time the best recommendation I can make is to go with a Centaur standard crankset (staying with the…
The Nerius line is available here in the US, it's the Solano line that isn't. I'd just ask you LBS if they have EURO-ASIA IMPORTS as one of their distributors. Having gone back through all my e-mails. The new 11 speed is a bit of a mystery to me as far as cross compatibility. I suspect you can use 11 and 10spd rings interchangeably with out even noticing, but I'm not sure. At this moment in time the best recommendation I can make is to go with a Centaur standard crankset (staying with the Athena groupset of course) and getting a set of 39/46 TA 135mm BCD rings. That would be the easiest, and the 10spd crank works fine with 11spd drivetrains from all the reports I've read. But I'll report back in a week or less if I find a better solution.<br />
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This is seriously why I've been thinking about making a small batch of Campy compatible chainrings in CX sizes to sell. It's way too much a PITA. I just need some connections, of which I have none. Based on what Rich said so fa…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2010-02-05:1198434:Comment:507682010-02-05T15:42:07.676ZVince H.https://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/VincentHom
Based on what Rich said so far, I found the following from starbike.com<br />
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Specialites TA Nerius 11 chainring 11-speed 110 mm (only for Campagnolo CT) inner 36<br />
Specialites TA Nerius 11 chainring 11-speed 110 mm (only for Campagnolo CT) inner 38<br />
Specialites TA Nerius 11 chainring 11-speed 110 mm (only for Campagnolo CT) outer 48<br />
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Has anyone used starbike.com? Would a US distributor be able to get them since they do seem to exist?
Based on what Rich said so far, I found the following from starbike.com<br />
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Specialites TA Nerius 11 chainring 11-speed 110 mm (only for Campagnolo CT) inner 36<br />
Specialites TA Nerius 11 chainring 11-speed 110 mm (only for Campagnolo CT) inner 38<br />
Specialites TA Nerius 11 chainring 11-speed 110 mm (only for Campagnolo CT) outer 48<br />
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Has anyone used starbike.com? Would a US distributor be able to get them since they do seem to exist? That IRD cassette will only w…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2010-02-05:1198434:Comment:507662010-02-05T12:51:40.841ZRichhttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/RichardDort
That IRD cassette will only work with the old 10spd stuff where you can get a med. cage RD. And it'd not like those are cheap. TA does make rings in CX sizes for UT. But like I said, the US distributor wasn't carrying them for some reason. In fact when I called them, they said I was the only person who had ever called asking for those models (they are a newer model). I haven't got in contact with the Canadian distributor though (who is much closer to where I live). TA rings are not cheap, but…
That IRD cassette will only work with the old 10spd stuff where you can get a med. cage RD. And it'd not like those are cheap. TA does make rings in CX sizes for UT. But like I said, the US distributor wasn't carrying them for some reason. In fact when I called them, they said I was the only person who had ever called asking for those models (they are a newer model). I haven't got in contact with the Canadian distributor though (who is much closer to where I live). TA rings are not cheap, but they are much less expensive than the Campy ones. Now, standard size for CX is 38/46. If you can't tell I've spent a lot of time the past year dinging around on this subject. If you do the math the gear-inch ratio spread is not that different than a normal compact with a 13-26 cassette. However, the jump from one ring to the other is quite big the further down the cassette you get. You want the closer ratio chainring ratio. It seems, from all my digging around, that the 38/46 works quite well for the racing here in the US, but you may want to consider a 36/46. There are more chainring options for standard cranks (135mm bcd) however. But you are stuck with a 39 as your smallest ring. Miche, for example makes a 46 for the 135mm BCD. Hope that helps. I run a single ring 42 with a…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2010-02-05:1198434:Comment:507562010-02-05T04:06:11.039Zdhwhttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/dhw
I run a single ring 42 with an IRD 12-32 in the rear with a Centaur med rear derailler and it works great! Campy is costly so most don't use it in the mud but hey you can rebuild and IRD gives you the spread of gears for cross!
I run a single ring 42 with an IRD 12-32 in the rear with a Centaur med rear derailler and it works great! Campy is costly so most don't use it in the mud but hey you can rebuild and IRD gives you the spread of gears for cross! Thanks for all the great info…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2010-02-04:1198434:Comment:507492010-02-04T23:23:04.667ZVince H.https://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/VincentHom
Thanks for all the great info...makes me feel more comfortable investing in Campy. I was thinking 3rd Party Crank because most of the posts mention not finding the correct chainrings sizes (46-48 Outer and 38-40 Inner) and needing to deal with odd Compact BCD size.<br />
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If I went with Athena 11s Compact and the 12-17, what would be the best Chainring sizes?
Thanks for all the great info...makes me feel more comfortable investing in Campy. I was thinking 3rd Party Crank because most of the posts mention not finding the correct chainrings sizes (46-48 Outer and 38-40 Inner) and needing to deal with odd Compact BCD size.<br />
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If I went with Athena 11s Compact and the 12-17, what would be the best Chainring sizes? That's 6 to 1, and a 1/2 doze…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2010-02-04:1198434:Comment:507482010-02-04T23:03:20.587ZRichhttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/RichardDort
That's 6 to 1, and a 1/2 dozen to the other. I would lean full alloy Athena. The brake levers look carbon, but they are just wrapped alloy levers. Also all of the 11 speed stuff has been stiffened up to shift better (ie. derailleurs and cassette bodies). And the all alloy Athena groupset is cheaper than the all carbon Centuar, which is available with alloy cranks. But I have been told that the World cup guys were breaking the carbon body rear derailleurs on some of the grittier courses, which…
That's 6 to 1, and a 1/2 dozen to the other. I would lean full alloy Athena. The brake levers look carbon, but they are just wrapped alloy levers. Also all of the 11 speed stuff has been stiffened up to shift better (ie. derailleurs and cassette bodies). And the all alloy Athena groupset is cheaper than the all carbon Centuar, which is available with alloy cranks. But I have been told that the World cup guys were breaking the carbon body rear derailleurs on some of the grittier courses, which Centaur is. And why go with a 3rd party crank? Just go with the Athena compact cranks and some TA 10spd ring(s) in the size(s) you want. They do have them. If you need help asking for the right ring just drop me a note and I'll help you out. The only issue is the US distributor might not carry the model you'll be looking for. You'll probably have to order it(them) from England. Ultra Torque is awesome to work on <i>and</i> ride. Don't substitute. And as far as wheels, if you have a set and can't get a Campy compatible freehub for it, my Campy Khamsin Wheelset have proved almost bullet proof. I am 220 lbs and I have beat these pretty hard on rough roads, commuting with loads, and even Mt. bike trails. The only issue I had was when I came back from Alaska this fall somewhere along the way the anchor bolt for the axel had backed out, and I hadn't noticed. The aluminum around the pawls got chewed up, and the spring eventually broke. But a new freewheel and I'm back in business. This is very unCampy like, as the service interval is 3000 miles, and overhaul is 12,000 or 15,000 miles. They are heavy though (1900grams). But they only cost me $200 online and have never had to be trued. Not to mention they are a comfy ride without being flexy. So which would be better to g…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2010-02-04:1198434:Comment:507472010-02-04T21:55:09.815ZVince H.https://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/VincentHom
So which would be better to go with Athena or Centaur if you start with nothing campy for cross?<br />
I was thinking going 3rd Party Crank and 1x10 or 1x11.
So which would be better to go with Athena or Centaur if you start with nothing campy for cross?<br />
I was thinking going 3rd Party Crank and 1x10 or 1x11.