Cyclocross Wheels on a budget - need advice - Cyclocross Magazine2024-03-28T17:20:12Zhttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/forum/topics/cyclocross-wheels-on-a-budget?commentId=1198434%3AComment%3A58408&feed=yes&xn_auth=nosweet. you answered my next q…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2010-06-03:1198434:Comment:589282010-06-03T12:08:52.318ZJeffhttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/JeffAllen
sweet. you answered my next question which was how much are the rims alone. not a big fan of ac hubs, but i can already see people are building weight winner versions of these so i might do the same. i had never considered tubeless before because i wouldn't put a stans 29'er rim on a road bike, and putting a tubeless tire on a regular clincher rim seemed so jank. but with this 340 rim and a hutchinson tire that were made for each other makes a lot more sense.
sweet. you answered my next question which was how much are the rims alone. not a big fan of ac hubs, but i can already see people are building weight winner versions of these so i might do the same. i had never considered tubeless before because i wouldn't put a stans 29'er rim on a road bike, and putting a tubeless tire on a regular clincher rim seemed so jank. but with this 340 rim and a hutchinson tire that were made for each other makes a lot more sense. The wheel sets will be availa…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2010-06-03:1198434:Comment:589272010-06-03T11:58:39.534ZBob Nunninkhttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/BibNunnink
The wheel sets will be available in July. Stan's is selling the rims in 32 and 28 hole versions now for those who want to build their own for $120. The rims will work with your favorite cross tire and will not need a rim strip. The sealant will not throw a wheel off balance. Low pressure, great rolling resistance and light weight is why people use tubulars. The new wheelset gives all these benefits, adds flat prevention and never having to glue a tire again.
The wheel sets will be available in July. Stan's is selling the rims in 32 and 28 hole versions now for those who want to build their own for $120. The rims will work with your favorite cross tire and will not need a rim strip. The sealant will not throw a wheel off balance. Low pressure, great rolling resistance and light weight is why people use tubulars. The new wheelset gives all these benefits, adds flat prevention and never having to glue a tire again. I have used sealant for both…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2010-06-03:1198434:Comment:589242010-06-03T10:27:19.609Zcxchivahttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/cxchiva
I have used sealant for both cyclocross and road and have never had the potential scenario you described. The sealant stays a liquid and spins around the inside of the tire. I used the same sealant and set of wheels for my entire cyclocross season last year and the sealant took five months to dry out. I think that the technology for road/cx tubeless sealant is superior to slime or car fix-a-flat. With Stan's or Hutchinson being the best.
I have used sealant for both cyclocross and road and have never had the potential scenario you described. The sealant stays a liquid and spins around the inside of the tire. I used the same sealant and set of wheels for my entire cyclocross season last year and the sealant took five months to dry out. I think that the technology for road/cx tubeless sealant is superior to slime or car fix-a-flat. With Stan's or Hutchinson being the best. those team models do look int…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2010-06-03:1198434:Comment:588872010-06-03T01:26:56.405ZJeffhttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/JeffAllen
those team models do look interesting for cross. have you heard of anyone testing them with low psi, and when will they be for sale? if i ran those i would definitely use the sealant, which brings up another question. what are the chances the sealant will clump in an area and throw the wheel off balance? i know for vehicles, when you use fix-a-flat or slime and dont <b>immediately</b> get the wheel spinning at a very fast rate your you'll get a clump that will wobble the hell out of your wheel…
those team models do look interesting for cross. have you heard of anyone testing them with low psi, and when will they be for sale? if i ran those i would definitely use the sealant, which brings up another question. what are the chances the sealant will clump in an area and throw the wheel off balance? i know for vehicles, when you use fix-a-flat or slime and dont <b>immediately</b> get the wheel spinning at a very fast rate your you'll get a clump that will wobble the hell out of your wheel while ruining both the tire and wheel at the same time. I would recommend these http:…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2010-06-02:1198434:Comment:588852010-06-02T23:18:53.247ZBob Nunninkhttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/BibNunnink
I would recommend these <a href="http://www.bikerumor.com/2010/05/14/first-look-new-road-tubeless-wheelsets-rims-from-stans-notubes/" target="_blank">http://www.bikerumor.com/2010/05/14/first-look-new-road-tubeless-wheelsets-rims-from-stans-notubes/</a> I do work for Stan so I may be biased. I think our new tubeless rim will make tubulars for cross a thing of the past.
I would recommend these <a href="http://www.bikerumor.com/2010/05/14/first-look-new-road-tubeless-wheelsets-rims-from-stans-notubes/" target="_blank">http://www.bikerumor.com/2010/05/14/first-look-new-road-tubeless-wheelsets-rims-from-stans-notubes/</a> I do work for Stan so I may be biased. I think our new tubeless rim will make tubulars for cross a thing of the past. question on the challenge cli…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2010-06-02:1198434:Comment:588712010-06-02T13:12:08.620ZJeffhttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/JeffAllen
question on the challenge clinchers. in their advertising they say "features seamless latex inner tube", are they referring to just an actual layer of the tire or do they come with a latex tube? might be a dumb question but it looks confusing to me.
question on the challenge clinchers. in their advertising they say "features seamless latex inner tube", are they referring to just an actual layer of the tire or do they come with a latex tube? might be a dumb question but it looks confusing to me. Hey, keep me in mind if you d…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2010-05-29:1198434:Comment:585902010-05-29T14:29:59.897ZJ.D. Kimplehttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/JDKimple423
Hey, keep me in mind if you decide to sell the Aksiums!
Hey, keep me in mind if you decide to sell the Aksiums! I have not tried them on CX,…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2010-05-28:1198434:Comment:585292010-05-28T14:50:52.599ZRick Mellendickhttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/RickMellendick
I have not tried them on CX, or road but ahve ridden a friends bike on the trails and theyfeel like softer MTB tires, my issues are based around general physics and the way tires have been mounted for 20 years... I am willing to try anything but not sure that this is the way I want to go, like i said in my original post, I use clinchers as a backup/quick change race day decision. I prefer tubulars for their feel and predictability and the ability to go lower pressures safer. I am a big guy and…
I have not tried them on CX, or road but ahve ridden a friends bike on the trails and theyfeel like softer MTB tires, my issues are based around general physics and the way tires have been mounted for 20 years... I am willing to try anything but not sure that this is the way I want to go, like i said in my original post, I use clinchers as a backup/quick change race day decision. I prefer tubulars for their feel and predictability and the ability to go lower pressures safer. I am a big guy and descend and corner fast, I need something that will conform to the ground and keep me rubber side down. I think they are good for MTB over cross due to the wider tires and more volume that MTD allows for therefore putting more pressure at the bead... again having never tried them I am only going off of some people that I truly respect in the "scene" but who know everyone's mileage will vary.<br />
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I do however totally agree that you are always your best mechanic... that is a skill all racers at a minimum should have. Don't believe the negative st…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2010-05-28:1198434:Comment:585052010-05-28T06:36:20.476Zcxchivahttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/cxchiva
Don't believe the negative stuff you hear or read about tubeless. From my experience it appears to be written by people who don't know what they are doing. In my opinion tubeless is the way to go. Last season I saw many riders miss the podium because of pinch flats while running clinchers. I did over 20 races last season running Ksyrium SL's and Stan's sealant without one problem and if you do some research you will find that many riders are happy with a tubeless set up. Why do you think it's…
Don't believe the negative stuff you hear or read about tubeless. From my experience it appears to be written by people who don't know what they are doing. In my opinion tubeless is the way to go. Last season I saw many riders miss the podium because of pinch flats while running clinchers. I did over 20 races last season running Ksyrium SL's and Stan's sealant without one problem and if you do some research you will find that many riders are happy with a tubeless set up. Why do you think it's ok for MTB but not cross? Like any bike related experience, you gotta be your own best mechanic and you can have alot of success going tubeless. Personally I am not into the ghetto tubeless setups. The best thing is to keep it simple, this year I will be using Shimano Ultegra 6700 (only $375 per set!) and Dura Ace 7850 wheels and Hutchinson tires. Also I am running these tubeless on the road as well and have not had a flat in over 4 months. The secret to mounting your tires is to run a few ounces of Stan's, make sure your valve stem is securely mounted and use plenty of soapy water to get a good seal. A floor pump has worked every time. If you run tubeless rims and tires technically you don't need any sealant but I use it anyways becuase of it's ability to seal small puncures. For me, going tubeless has been like seeing the light. I have gotten rid of all of my wheels that involve a tube. I gotta stop, I feel like a sales person and I hate retail! Hey PhillyBoop,
One of the m…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2010-05-27:1198434:Comment:584782010-05-27T21:37:19.238Zandrewhttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/cyclocross
Hey PhillyBoop,<br />
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One of the most reliable tubeless setups I have had is a Michelin Mud2 with a Stans strip on a Aksium front wheel. Down to 20 psi with no burps (160 lbs) . It's a few years old but worked well - a friend is riding it now with good luck too.<br />
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Good luck.
Hey PhillyBoop,<br />
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One of the most reliable tubeless setups I have had is a Michelin Mud2 with a Stans strip on a Aksium front wheel. Down to 20 psi with no burps (160 lbs) . It's a few years old but worked well - a friend is riding it now with good luck too.<br />
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Good luck.