Shoulder the bike? or pull a ryan trebon? - Cyclocross Magazine2024-03-29T07:57:49Zhttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/forum/topics/shoulder-the-bike-or-pull-a?commentId=1198434%3AComment%3A33466&feed=yes&xn_auth=noI think the taller you are, t…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2009-11-13:1198434:Comment:456602009-11-13T22:29:49.743ZBeth Hamonhttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/BethHamon
I think the taller you are, the more options you probably have.<br />
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I'm 5' 7" and ride a Kona mountain bike for 'cross. The low-slung geometry doesn't allow me to use the "classic" 'cross carry. For barriers and very short runs I grab the handlebars and top tube; for longer run-ups (or the dreaded "six-pack", which MAY show up this week at Barton Park) I throw my very long arm over the tob tube, grab the downtube and carry with the saddle resting lighly on my shoulder (I added a layer of padding…
I think the taller you are, the more options you probably have.<br />
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I'm 5' 7" and ride a Kona mountain bike for 'cross. The low-slung geometry doesn't allow me to use the "classic" 'cross carry. For barriers and very short runs I grab the handlebars and top tube; for longer run-ups (or the dreaded "six-pack", which MAY show up this week at Barton Park) I throw my very long arm over the tob tube, grab the downtube and carry with the saddle resting lighly on my shoulder (I added a layer of padding over the front half of the saddle rails to help this hurt a little less). +1 Simon Burney's book.
His…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2009-11-13:1198434:Comment:456012009-11-13T14:18:17.882ZSteve Kirkhttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/SteveKirk
+1 Simon Burney's book.<br />
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His suggestion of flicking the bike out the side over fast barriers helps too! I think this is the 'Belgian scythe' Jason mentions...
+1 Simon Burney's book.<br />
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His suggestion of flicking the bike out the side over fast barriers helps too! I think this is the 'Belgian scythe' Jason mentions... I haven't tried the flexing t…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2009-11-13:1198434:Comment:456002009-11-13T14:13:49.570ZSteve Kirkhttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/SteveKirk
I haven't tried the flexing the bicep part of this, but I shall give it a try next time.<br />
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Anyway, I had the same problem as the OP. Tried round the head tube, but I felt unbalenced and it was hard on my shoulder. I'm pretty much doing the about now - works well for me in a longer run.<br />
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The extra trick I've found was when grabbing the left drop with right hand, I have my fingers over the top of the bar rather than underneith it. I think I just wasn't thinking about it when I started racing…
I haven't tried the flexing the bicep part of this, but I shall give it a try next time.<br />
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Anyway, I had the same problem as the OP. Tried round the head tube, but I felt unbalenced and it was hard on my shoulder. I'm pretty much doing the about now - works well for me in a longer run.<br />
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The extra trick I've found was when grabbing the left drop with right hand, I have my fingers over the top of the bar rather than underneith it. I think I just wasn't thinking about it when I started racing 'cross (in too much pain!) but I had my hand under the bar to start with.<br />
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Cheers,<br />
Steve Dude, you can't be shorter th…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2009-08-16:1198434:Comment:358362009-08-16T20:04:45.924ZChris Mayhewhttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/ChrisMayhew
Dude, you can't be shorter than me and I don't shoulder. I alternate between picking it up by the down tube and the top tube. I revert to the top tube when I get tired (since that's what I've practiced the most) but the down tube grab is less effort.
Dude, you can't be shorter than me and I don't shoulder. I alternate between picking it up by the down tube and the top tube. I revert to the top tube when I get tired (since that's what I've practiced the most) but the down tube grab is less effort. I think it would be highly ef…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2009-08-16:1198434:Comment:358202009-08-16T01:00:04.684ZJasonhttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/Jason19
I think it would be highly effective to helicopter it around you or do the "Belgian scythe" and by holding the seatpost and seat, and let your momentum and gravity take care of your competitors.
I think it would be highly effective to helicopter it around you or do the "Belgian scythe" and by holding the seatpost and seat, and let your momentum and gravity take care of your competitors. It must be really soft, loose…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2009-08-15:1198434:Comment:357952009-08-15T21:01:10.256ZDarrel Brokeshoulderhttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/DarrelBrokeshoulder
It must be really soft, loose dirt for Trebon...he looks like he going to grab the post to pull himself around the corner.<br />
As far as picking up the bike, pick it up for a few steps and shoulder for longer then 10 yards. This is why you need to check the course, if possible. While you are training, you should practice both methods equally so that you can be smooth and not waste energy.
It must be really soft, loose dirt for Trebon...he looks like he going to grab the post to pull himself around the corner.<br />
As far as picking up the bike, pick it up for a few steps and shoulder for longer then 10 yards. This is why you need to check the course, if possible. While you are training, you should practice both methods equally so that you can be smooth and not waste energy. Pull a Trebon you say?
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Pull a Trebon you say?<br />
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Like others have said: picking up v. shoulders depends on the course and how tightly spaced the barriers are.<br />
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The only thing I have to add is that it's always a good idea to pre-ride the course and know what method you will be using for each transition.
Pull a Trebon you say?<br />
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Like others have said: picking up v. shoulders depends on the course and how tightly spaced the barriers are.<br />
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The only thing I have to add is that it's always a good idea to pre-ride the course and know what method you will be using for each transition. Erik Tonkin taught me a metho…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2009-08-03:1198434:Comment:337812009-08-03T21:45:42.841Zvanwacxhttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/vanwacx
Erik Tonkin taught me a method for shouldering that works great. I use the under the down tube method (not around the head tube favored by taller racers)<br />
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* Pick up the bike by the down tube and hoist it on your shoulder. While so doing, slip your right arm under the down tube and grasp the bottom of the left drop in your right hand.<br />
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* Flex your right bicep as if you were performing a curl. Keep it flexed (as little as possible while still keeping the down tube secure between your bicep and…
Erik Tonkin taught me a method for shouldering that works great. I use the under the down tube method (not around the head tube favored by taller racers)<br />
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* Pick up the bike by the down tube and hoist it on your shoulder. While so doing, slip your right arm under the down tube and grasp the bottom of the left drop in your right hand.<br />
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* Flex your right bicep as if you were performing a curl. Keep it flexed (as little as possible while still keeping the down tube secure between your bicep and forearm).<br />
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* Your front wheel should be positioned almost like a shield in front of you. Not that you need it to fend off competitors ...<br />
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This will do three things for you: 1) This will draw your shoulder toward the head tube and give you plenty of room for your helmet in front of the seat, 2) Takes some of the weight off of your shoulder since part of the bike weight it now supported by your arm, 3) Keeps you in better control of you bike -- it won't flop around.<br />
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If you have ported your bike properly, your front wheel should still be spinning when you set it down at the end of the obstacle. Thank you so much oliver that…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2009-07-30:1198434:Comment:335052009-07-30T03:34:54.487ZIan McFarlandhttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/IanMcFarland
Thank you so much oliver that video helped a lot i know enough about cross to know when to carry and when to shoulder my main concern was whether to brief case it or grab the seat post and put it out in front of me but i never noticed that i was putting pressure on the top tube and subsequently pushing it down and causing me to be hitting myself in the head thank you everyone for your input!
Thank you so much oliver that video helped a lot i know enough about cross to know when to carry and when to shoulder my main concern was whether to brief case it or grab the seat post and put it out in front of me but i never noticed that i was putting pressure on the top tube and subsequently pushing it down and causing me to be hitting myself in the head thank you everyone for your input! shorter distance=pick up, lon…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2009-07-29:1198434:Comment:334662009-07-29T02:56:21.943Zcxchivahttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/cxchiva
shorter distance=pick up, longer distance or uphill=shoulder for me
shorter distance=pick up, longer distance or uphill=shoulder for me