Thoughts on the Louisville Derby Cup USGP... - Cyclocross Magazine2024-03-28T17:39:20Zhttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/forum/topics/thoughts-on-the-louisville?commentId=1198434%3AComment%3A72052&xg_raw_resources=1&feed=yes&xn_auth=noAndyB, wish I could make Hoss…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2010-10-27:1198434:Comment:721082010-10-27T14:43:57.183ZBooksyhttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/Booksy
AndyB, wish I could make Hoss of Cross, I'll be out on the road, but I'm headed to Memphis Saturday and I'll be in Murfreesboro for Cross The Way on the 21st. Still want to talk to you about your bikes.<br />
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let's split the 2's and 3's, give everyone a chance to race!!
AndyB, wish I could make Hoss of Cross, I'll be out on the road, but I'm headed to Memphis Saturday and I'll be in Murfreesboro for Cross The Way on the 21st. Still want to talk to you about your bikes.<br />
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let's split the 2's and 3's, give everyone a chance to race!! Ahhh, I need to learn how to…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2010-10-27:1198434:Comment:721072010-10-27T14:42:00.602ZBooksyhttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/Booksy
Ahhh, I need to learn how to use the computer better. This is great, apparently "revised" means I moved up to 39th on Sunday. Thanks Andrew.
Ahhh, I need to learn how to use the computer better. This is great, apparently "revised" means I moved up to 39th on Sunday. Thanks Andrew. The results span several page…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2010-10-27:1198434:Comment:720992010-10-27T14:31:46.794ZAndrew Coehttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/AndrewCoe
The results span several pages. Try looking at: "REVISED DCC Day One/Two Results". They have 115 finishers show for Sat and 107 for sunday
The results span several pages. Try looking at: "REVISED DCC Day One/Two Results". They have 115 finishers show for Sat and 107 for sunday The venue was great. Parking…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2010-10-27:1198434:Comment:720792010-10-27T05:03:33.403ZAndyBhttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/AndyB
The venue was great. Parking could have been handled better, though, and it would have been nice to have registration closer to the parking area. As far as the officiating, I raced the 2/3 Saturday and was pulled shortly after starting my third lap. As a slow 3, I was expecting to be lapped, but not that early and not to be pulled. It was really disappointing. If you're going to have that many racers of course, you need to have a longer lap and/or separate the fields. If it had been wet, it…
The venue was great. Parking could have been handled better, though, and it would have been nice to have registration closer to the parking area. As far as the officiating, I raced the 2/3 Saturday and was pulled shortly after starting my third lap. As a slow 3, I was expecting to be lapped, but not that early and not to be pulled. It was really disappointing. If you're going to have that many racers of course, you need to have a longer lap and/or separate the fields. If it had been wet, it would have been very different. As it was, though, only about half the field finished on the lead lap, which seems ridiculous.<br />
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Anyway, what bugs me is Sunday I raced the singlespeed race (run concurrently with the 2/3's), because rumor was they weren't as zealous about pulling lapped singlespeeders. And sure enough, even though I was lapped by the same guys that lapped me in Saturday's 2/3 race, I was allowed to continue. Either way I was lapped traffic, so I feel it was an arbitrary decision.<br />
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On a side note, Booksy was the last rider to lap me on Sunday, literally as we were coming out onto the pavement. I did all I could, but if I'm gonna get lapped, it may as well be someone I like. Good racing, Travis. Hope to see you in McEwen. I have to agree on just about…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2010-10-26:1198434:Comment:720682010-10-26T22:32:33.828ZNatehttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/Nate
I have to agree on just about all points...I was pulled on Sat as well (first time ever), and I only had about 300 meters until I was on the last lap...first place was so far off the front of the master 35+ that it hardly made a difference to pull me and those immediately around me...we were not impeding the race at the front whatsoever!...i spoke with an official about it, in a sort of casual way (the start lady), and her tap dance around the point made me realize they knew they messed up a…
I have to agree on just about all points...I was pulled on Sat as well (first time ever), and I only had about 300 meters until I was on the last lap...first place was so far off the front of the master 35+ that it hardly made a difference to pull me and those immediately around me...we were not impeding the race at the front whatsoever!...i spoke with an official about it, in a sort of casual way (the start lady), and her tap dance around the point made me realize they knew they messed up a bit...I feel sorry for those super big fields...but a longer lap is surely needed with fields that large... those results only go through…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2010-10-26:1198434:Comment:720552010-10-26T20:17:47.373ZBooksyhttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/Booksy
those results only go through 18th place in the 2/3 race.<br />
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tough day if you were a recently upgraded 3 trying to keep from getting lapped by a soon-to-be elite. There's a huge range in the 2/3 race, I'd like to see these categories separated.
those results only go through 18th place in the 2/3 race.<br />
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tough day if you were a recently upgraded 3 trying to keep from getting lapped by a soon-to-be elite. There's a huge range in the 2/3 race, I'd like to see these categories separated. I agree with both #1 and #3.…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2010-10-26:1198434:Comment:720522010-10-26T19:20:58.465ZAndrew Coehttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/AndrewCoe
I agree with both #1 and #3. I have GPS data showing the laps were roughly 1.38-1.4 miles long. Perhaps they thought the difficulty of the course would warrant such short laps? There is a ton of potential with the venue, so hopefully this will be a learning experience for the promoters.<br />
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Results are up online and have been since yesterday morning. <a href="http://www.usgpcyclocross.com/RacesResults.aspx" target="_blank">http://www.usgpcyclocross.com/RacesResults.aspx</a> Results for the 2/3…
I agree with both #1 and #3. I have GPS data showing the laps were roughly 1.38-1.4 miles long. Perhaps they thought the difficulty of the course would warrant such short laps? There is a ton of potential with the venue, so hopefully this will be a learning experience for the promoters.<br />
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Results are up online and have been since yesterday morning. <a href="http://www.usgpcyclocross.com/RacesResults.aspx" target="_blank">http://www.usgpcyclocross.com/RacesResults.aspx</a> Results for the 2/3 race were actually posted fairly quickly at the S/F tent both days, but they didn't make it to the registration tent until the end of the day for some reason. Lapped riders were common in all fields on both Sat and Sun, probably due to just how hard the course was.<br />
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Actually, in the 2/3 race there were riders being lapped and pulled at the end of the second lap. That is no fun for anyone. We were told at the start that the race would be shortened by 1 lap at the beginning of the race, though I don't know if anyone past the first 5 rows or so could hear that announcement. USGP will probably lose their…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2010-10-26:1198434:Comment:720432010-10-26T18:54:58.828ZScott David Bondhttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/ScottDavidBond
USGP will probably lose their C1 status for the Saturday race for next year because the course was too short.
USGP will probably lose their C1 status for the Saturday race for next year because the course was too short. They had 'timing' ---- they w…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2010-10-26:1198434:Comment:720412010-10-26T18:53:00.787ZScott David Bondhttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/ScottDavidBond
They had 'timing' ---- they were using recognition cameras to track riders ---- and they were pretty accurate -- riders were being pulled because the UCI refs were enforcing UCI rules on the non-UCI races --- lap times are posted for most races on the USGP website --- 2/3's and 4's will probably never be posted because of all the officiating errors that occurred -- riders who were running top 20 were pulled and others that had been lapped were missed and left in ---- they did not have enough…
They had 'timing' ---- they were using recognition cameras to track riders ---- and they were pretty accurate -- riders were being pulled because the UCI refs were enforcing UCI rules on the non-UCI races --- lap times are posted for most races on the USGP website --- 2/3's and 4's will probably never be posted because of all the officiating errors that occurred -- riders who were running top 20 were pulled and others that had been lapped were missed and left in ---- they did not have enough refs for the field sizes ----- If only the UCI refs would have used the lap times as a tool -- they could have just let everyone race and then used the timing to sort everything out -- timing technology is getting so good that it will eventually replace the refs need to run a race. I agree that the lap was way…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2010-10-26:1198434:Comment:720362010-10-26T17:35:50.838Zgdogghttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/gdogg
I agree that the lap was way too short on Saturday. I thought there is a rule that states if you have that many riders racing, that the course must be a minimum length. I would have been really annoyed if I got pulled that early in a race. Overall I thought the course was great. In my opinion the changes they made to the course on Sunday were all improvements.<br />
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I thought the tent area and food, vendors, etc. areas could have been laid out in a better way to make more of a festival atmosphere,…
I agree that the lap was way too short on Saturday. I thought there is a rule that states if you have that many riders racing, that the course must be a minimum length. I would have been really annoyed if I got pulled that early in a race. Overall I thought the course was great. In my opinion the changes they made to the course on Sunday were all improvements.<br />
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I thought the tent area and food, vendors, etc. areas could have been laid out in a better way to make more of a festival atmosphere, and live music or other activities would also be great.