Time for a real Cross bike... which one? - Cyclocross Magazine2024-03-28T21:07:07Zhttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/forum/topics/time-for-a-real-cross-bike?commentId=1198434%3AComment%3A58930&feed=yes&xn_auth=noI built up 2010 TCX and I was…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2010-12-06:1198434:Comment:767162010-12-06T00:21:43.945ZDavid Shawhttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/DavidShaw
I built up 2010 TCX and I was really happy with it. I am selling but only for the reason that I absolutely love my 2009 Tricross because of the more upright riding position and lets face it, everybody has that ONE bike that is just THEIR bike. I recommend the TCX for a frame is really light and really stiff.
I built up 2010 TCX and I was really happy with it. I am selling but only for the reason that I absolutely love my 2009 Tricross because of the more upright riding position and lets face it, everybody has that ONE bike that is just THEIR bike. I recommend the TCX for a frame is really light and really stiff. I love my Salsa Chili Con Cro…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2010-12-03:1198434:Comment:765222010-12-03T17:25:43.089ZAntonio De Filippohttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/AntonioDeFilippo
I love my Salsa Chili Con Crosso . However , you may want to consider if you plan to use disc vs. V brakes. Discs are now legal and stop quicker V brakes are lighter. Hakkaluggi has a possibility for discs Salsa doesn't as far as I know. That said I think the Salsa scandium bike is superior. Both are great bikes no doubt.
I love my Salsa Chili Con Crosso . However , you may want to consider if you plan to use disc vs. V brakes. Discs are now legal and stop quicker V brakes are lighter. Hakkaluggi has a possibility for discs Salsa doesn't as far as I know. That said I think the Salsa scandium bike is superior. Both are great bikes no doubt. The x-fire runs big. Look at…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2010-12-02:1198434:Comment:762702010-12-02T22:52:26.191Zmatthew triskahttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/matthewtriska
The x-fire runs big. Look at the top tube length when determining size, and forget about stand over height! Completely unimportant when looking at a cx racing bike - the x-fire is tall because of a high bottom bracket. bb height is important, it affects cornering handling and pedal strike - comes down to personal preference on how you want your bike to ride.
The x-fire runs big. Look at the top tube length when determining size, and forget about stand over height! Completely unimportant when looking at a cx racing bike - the x-fire is tall because of a high bottom bracket. bb height is important, it affects cornering handling and pedal strike - comes down to personal preference on how you want your bike to ride. this one.
http://skronglite.…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2010-12-02:1198434:Comment:762222010-12-02T06:18:14.465ZSkronglite Industrieshttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/SkrongliteIndustries
this one.<br />
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<a href="http://skronglite.blogspot.com/2010/12/holiday-must-have-skronglite-saw-and.html" target="_blank">http://skronglite.blogspot.com/2010/12/holiday-must-have-skronglite-saw-and.html</a>
this one.<br />
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<a href="http://skronglite.blogspot.com/2010/12/holiday-must-have-skronglite-saw-and.html" target="_blank">http://skronglite.blogspot.com/2010/12/holiday-must-have-skronglite-saw-and.html</a> im going to second the van de…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2010-11-11:1198434:Comment:735582010-11-11T02:14:28.598ZJohn Giuffrehttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/JohnGiuffre
im going to second the van dessel. They are super nice and very well built check them out!
im going to second the van dessel. They are super nice and very well built check them out! hey just saw you're selling t…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2010-11-02:1198434:Comment:727172010-11-02T20:29:17.960Zandrewhttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/cyclocross
hey just saw you're selling this frame - after all the research - wondering what you'll end up with and why you're getting rid of the super x?
hey just saw you're selling this frame - after all the research - wondering what you'll end up with and why you're getting rid of the super x? we reviewed the alum addict a…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2010-06-05:1198434:Comment:590682010-06-05T02:11:17.189Zandrewhttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/cyclocross
we reviewed the alum addict a couple issues ago. <a href="http://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/JoshPatterson">josh patterson</a> reviewed it and liked it - he found it very stiff for sure. if you're worried about dents, certainly carbon/steel are better choices, but may not be overall more durable.<br />
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I'm surprised the blue has clearance problems - they're pretty low slung and have short head tubes but sit a bit tall. you could always consider custom. for the prices of carbon you could…
we reviewed the alum addict a couple issues ago. <a href="http://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/JoshPatterson">josh patterson</a> reviewed it and liked it - he found it very stiff for sure. if you're worried about dents, certainly carbon/steel are better choices, but may not be overall more durable.<br />
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I'm surprised the blue has clearance problems - they're pretty low slung and have short head tubes but sit a bit tall. you could always consider custom. for the prices of carbon you could definitely get a custom alum, scandium (rock lobster doesn't have a crazy wait and is reasonable) or ti (overseas - habanero) custom frame.<br />
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for shouldering, your shoulder really sits around the middle of the top tube, so you could look for something with a tall head tube and a extreme slope may actually have the same amount of room as a low head tube and horizontal top tube, if that makes sense. it's like comparing the midpoints of "-" and "/" ( a gross over simplification). granted, your crotch is not much further back than the midpoint of the top tube too, so there might not be much gain either.<br />
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good luck. let us know what you decide! Hi Andrew
Thanks for the deta…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2010-06-04:1198434:Comment:590612010-06-04T22:42:31.018ZMarkM13https://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/MarkMahoney
Hi Andrew<br />
Thanks for the detailed response.<br />
I'm looking for a size 52 which most co's call a small. I'm currently using a 52.5 TT. My biggest issue is a 78cm inseem. This has me scratching Blue, Ridley and a few others.<br />
I'd like to avoid a sloping TT but I nay not have much of a choice. Sloping TTs on smaller frames make them tougher to shoulder. I hadn't given much thought to head tube lenght. What should I be looking for here?<br />
Your are correct in assuming I'm looking for some thing on the…
Hi Andrew<br />
Thanks for the detailed response.<br />
I'm looking for a size 52 which most co's call a small. I'm currently using a 52.5 TT. My biggest issue is a 78cm inseem. This has me scratching Blue, Ridley and a few others.<br />
I'd like to avoid a sloping TT but I nay not have much of a choice. Sloping TTs on smaller frames make them tougher to shoulder. I hadn't given much thought to head tube lenght. What should I be looking for here?<br />
Your are correct in assuming I'm looking for some thing on the light side. I'm not willing to sacrifice durability though. I've seen several reviews of the Con Crosso mention how easily it dents. Sort of has me concerned.<br />
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So you have any experience with the Scott Addict Cx. It's more than I want to spend but I'm finding my fit to be limiting<br />
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thx<br />
M Mark,
sounds like you're loo…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2010-06-04:1198434:Comment:590592010-06-04T22:13:54.007Zandrewhttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/cyclocross
Mark,<br />
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sounds like you're looking for a sloping top tube for standover? so longer torso, shorter legs? but sounds like you want light?<br />
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the ibis was slightly sloping but not too much on the larger sizes. what size are you looking at? the slope isn't the only issue but one consideration along with head tube length and bottom bracket height.<br />
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one sloping top tube that comes to mind is the giant TCX.<br />
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the other approach is just bikes that have short head tubes and are very aggressive. Todd's…
Mark,<br />
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sounds like you're looking for a sloping top tube for standover? so longer torso, shorter legs? but sounds like you want light?<br />
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the ibis was slightly sloping but not too much on the larger sizes. what size are you looking at? the slope isn't the only issue but one consideration along with head tube length and bottom bracket height.<br />
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one sloping top tube that comes to mind is the giant TCX.<br />
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the other approach is just bikes that have short head tubes and are very aggressive. Todd's suggestion on Blue is right on here (although not the lowest bb, which affects standover), also Bianchi and Focus fit this bill nicely and have carbon options. We've reviewed both - and both are great bikes. The Bianchi is under-appreciated but nearly perfect as a frame, the focus has a very stout fork and the Ultegra model at $2700 is a relative bargain for a full carbon bike. I think Jamis might fit your needs as well (low bb).<br />
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Even surly and soma have short head tubes/long top tubes.<br />
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I'd agree with surly bastard redline specs great bikes but if you need lots of standover their top tubes are not really that sloping.<br />
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Lastly, one small thing to consider is top-tube length is not absolute - it needs to be considered in conjunction with seat angle if you're using that as a gauge for size, if you are positioning your seat relative to the bottom bracket.<br />
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Hope that all makes sense! I too can't fit to a Ridley (…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2010-06-04:1198434:Comment:590282010-06-04T16:00:40.188ZTodd Hockenberryhttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/ToddHockenberry948
I too can't fit to a Ridley (short legs) so I looked around a lot before deciding to go with a Blue. They are coming out with three new CX frames. I'm not sure when they will be available, I imagine sometime this summer. The main complaints about this frame have been addressed for '11 it seems, i.e. tire clearance. This was sent to my email this morning.<br />
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<b>Norcross SL</b><br />
The frame itself on the SL will be the same design from the 2010 Norcross bike, but we've added some more clearance in the…
I too can't fit to a Ridley (short legs) so I looked around a lot before deciding to go with a Blue. They are coming out with three new CX frames. I'm not sure when they will be available, I imagine sometime this summer. The main complaints about this frame have been addressed for '11 it seems, i.e. tire clearance. This was sent to my email this morning.<br />
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<b>Norcross SL</b><br />
The frame itself on the SL will be the same design from the 2010 Norcross bike, but we've added some more clearance in the chainstay area and the fork has been updated to include carbon dropouts. Features will include the 1 1/2 lower headset bearing and BB30 bottom bracket. <a href="http://rideblue.com/images/pageimages/norcrosssl.jpg" target="_blank">http://rideblue.com/images/pageimages/norcrosssl.jpg</a><br />
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<b>Norcross EX</b><br />
Brand new for 2011, the EX will feature a carbon monocoque design using the same geometry as the SL. The fork will be the exact same one that we used on the 2010 Norcross and will feature a 1 1/2 lower headset bearing. BB30 will also make an appearance in the BB area. The EX will come in weighing around 150 grams heavier than SL frameset.<br />
<a href="http://rideblue.com/images/pageimages/norcrossex.jpg" target="_blank">http://rideblue.com/images/pageimages/norcrossex.jpg</a><br />
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<b>Norcross SP</b><br />
With the CX6.5 leaving our range for 2011, it will be replaced by the also alloy Norcross SP. The SP will feature the same fork as the EX frameset, including the 1 1/2 lower headset bearing and also come standard with BB30 bottom bracket. The SP will be THE bike for the budget conscious rider who still wants great performance.<br />
<a href="http://rideblue.com/images/pageimages/norcrosssp.jpg" target="_blank">http://rideblue.com/images/pageimages/norcrosssp.jpg</a>