Tubulars Vs Powertap - Cyclocross Magazine2024-03-28T08:40:50Zhttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/forum/topics/tubulars-vs-powertap?commentId=1198434%3AComment%3A57984&feed=yes&xn_auth=noI agree with Brian. I have go…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2010-07-15:1198434:Comment:619282010-07-15T23:15:23.562ZMikehttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/Mike508
I agree with Brian. I have gotten so sick of looking at that god damn little yellow box for hours on end. If you're going to stick to a plan and or get a coach and be all sorts of hardcore about your training, then the PT is a good path. I've found it sucks the fun out of riding and that is why 99.9% of cross racers do this sport. Unlike TT's you won't really get much out of using it as a pacing tool during races, and it will probably break anyway. It kind of made cycling feel too much like a…
I agree with Brian. I have gotten so sick of looking at that god damn little yellow box for hours on end. If you're going to stick to a plan and or get a coach and be all sorts of hardcore about your training, then the PT is a good path. I've found it sucks the fun out of riding and that is why 99.9% of cross racers do this sport. Unlike TT's you won't really get much out of using it as a pacing tool during races, and it will probably break anyway. It kind of made cycling feel too much like a job for my tastes. Given the chance to do it again, I'd have spent the $900 on a ss MTB or pit bike and a reflex/ultegra set of tubies. Honestly once you have been training hard enough you'll get a pretty good feel for what the different zones feel like and if you do reps on the same climbs, time is a reasonable intensity measurement as wind conditions don't contribute all that much. In picking up from some of An…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2010-07-13:1198434:Comment:617982010-07-13T17:49:07.036ZBrianhttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/Brian62
In picking up from some of Andrew's questions from his last post, I have some questions for you. Are you the type of rider that will take the time to use the Powertap properly? In other words, are you using it every time you get on the bike, running an LT test at least monthly, do you have knowledge of how to train using power (have you read the Hunter/Cogan book on training with power?), will you put the time into downloading and analyzing data from all your rides to really get the most out of…
In picking up from some of Andrew's questions from his last post, I have some questions for you. Are you the type of rider that will take the time to use the Powertap properly? In other words, are you using it every time you get on the bike, running an LT test at least monthly, do you have knowledge of how to train using power (have you read the Hunter/Cogan book on training with power?), will you put the time into downloading and analyzing data from all your rides to really get the most out of the Powertap? If so, then I might say that in the long run, you'll get a lot out of the Powertap. If not, then it's really just an expensive toy. I have a Powertap that I bought when I was road racing a lot. Initially I used it quite a bit, but wasn't necessarily testing monthly and didn't analyze the data as closely as I should have. I DID see improvements in my power though, even without going full in. BUT, after a season or so, and after having some long term issues with my Powertap, I figured out that I like just training and racing without having to constantly look down and chase a number on a little screen. So that too is something to consider. When you train right now, are you training on heart rate and do you spend lots of time ensuring that you are in the correct training zone? Do you mind being chained to looking down at your computer constantly? If you get a Powertap, you will spend lots of time looking down chasing a number, so keep that in mind.<br />
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In terms of tubulars, you can get some very reasonably priced off the shelf wheels out there and they will make a noticeable difference in how your bike handles and feels. You might gain a hair amount of speed with tubulars as well since you can run them at much lower pressures and stay in contact with the ground surface more. Plus, the cost of tubulars tires and wheels, assuming you aren't looking at some out of this world carbon rims, are not going to make your wallet nearly as light as a Powertap. Plus, if you get tubs, you'll get to have the experience of gluing them up, which can't be overlooked.<br />
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I could go on for days with this. I'm cutting myself off. Amen Brother, Both is prefera…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2010-05-19:1198434:Comment:579842010-05-19T11:55:58.366ZKurtis Fraleyhttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/KurtisFraley
Amen Brother, Both is preferable.
Amen Brother, Both is preferable. I would spend that money on a…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2010-05-18:1198434:Comment:579452010-05-18T23:27:47.471ZBooksyhttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/Booksy
I would spend that money on a vacation. Or Beer.
I would spend that money on a vacation. Or Beer. Tubeless in Cross is worthles…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2010-05-18:1198434:Comment:579402010-05-18T18:52:43.197ZKurtis Fraleyhttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/KurtisFraley
Tubeless in Cross is worthless. If money was no object, for some it might be, I would get all of the above (powertap, SRM, and tubular wheelsets with FMB's)...But that is just not in the cards. I have to make a decision on one or the other. Thank you for all of your help and I am out.
Tubeless in Cross is worthless. If money was no object, for some it might be, I would get all of the above (powertap, SRM, and tubular wheelsets with FMB's)...But that is just not in the cards. I have to make a decision on one or the other. Thank you for all of your help and I am out. i have read more than once th…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2010-05-18:1198434:Comment:579302010-05-18T15:32:57.500ZJeffhttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/JeffAllen
i have read more than once that tubeless and cyclocross dont mix. the low pressure will make the tire burp very easily from what people are saying, and if you're on the heavy side dont even think about it. in my opinion tubeless is half-stepping. you're either all in with tubulars or all out on clinchers.<br />
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also, apparently you get far more accurate readings at the crank with the SRM then you do at the hub. powertaps look more like consumer level weekend rider-ish, while the powermeter looks…
i have read more than once that tubeless and cyclocross dont mix. the low pressure will make the tire burp very easily from what people are saying, and if you're on the heavy side dont even think about it. in my opinion tubeless is half-stepping. you're either all in with tubulars or all out on clinchers.<br />
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also, apparently you get far more accurate readings at the crank with the SRM then you do at the hub. powertaps look more like consumer level weekend rider-ish, while the powermeter looks super high tech and very pro. i would rather buy something like that from a company like SRM who are only doing one thing very well and not one like saris who sell car racks and trainers and everything in between. The SRM Is nice in that you c…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2010-05-18:1198434:Comment:579292010-05-18T15:01:59.491ZEchappe Equipmenthttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/echappe
The SRM Is nice in that you can have race wheels and training wheels and still get the data from both scenarios. Not having your race numbers is like having a huge blind spot in your overall fitness profile.<br />
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Also - lots of elite/pro sponsorships dictate the wheels we have to ride. Sometimes powertaps are not an option, like with Shimano sponsorships.
The SRM Is nice in that you can have race wheels and training wheels and still get the data from both scenarios. Not having your race numbers is like having a huge blind spot in your overall fitness profile.<br />
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Also - lots of elite/pro sponsorships dictate the wheels we have to ride. Sometimes powertaps are not an option, like with Shimano sponsorships. dave's options make sense to…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2010-05-14:1198434:Comment:577282010-05-14T21:36:49.124Zandrewhttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/cyclocross
dave's options make sense to me - the one thing I'd disagree with is the current hutchy tires working well on converted wheels. see <a href="http://bit.ly/bxt7CE" target="_blank">this article</a> for tire recommendations. hutchinson is reworking their bead though. Their tires do work really well on a stans rim though, as do many others.
dave's options make sense to me - the one thing I'd disagree with is the current hutchy tires working well on converted wheels. see <a href="http://bit.ly/bxt7CE" target="_blank">this article</a> for tire recommendations. hutchinson is reworking their bead though. Their tires do work really well on a stans rim though, as do many others. do you have a set of reasonab…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2010-05-14:1198434:Comment:577272010-05-14T21:32:31.665Zandrewhttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/cyclocross
do you have a set of reasonably light clincher wheels you can convert to tubeless? that's another option, not to complicate the problem. I'd say it would depend on whether you're confident you are the type of person that would really utilize this data and know how to do it. It's more of a training vs. racing question right? You'd probably use the training wheel more if you use the power data, but it doesn't help if you are being passed by everyone because you're racing at high pressure or pinch…
do you have a set of reasonably light clincher wheels you can convert to tubeless? that's another option, not to complicate the problem. I'd say it would depend on whether you're confident you are the type of person that would really utilize this data and know how to do it. It's more of a training vs. racing question right? You'd probably use the training wheel more if you use the power data, but it doesn't help if you are being passed by everyone because you're racing at high pressure or pinch flatting.<br />
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it's also worth saying that you could get tubular wheels (even used) for far lower than a powertap. isn't the SRM powermeter far…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2010-05-13:1198434:Comment:576672010-05-13T21:02:31.888ZJeffhttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/JeffAllen
isn't the SRM powermeter far superior to the powertap? looks like every pro that uses a computer uses SRM.
isn't the SRM powermeter far superior to the powertap? looks like every pro that uses a computer uses SRM.