Why do I keep crashing/wiping out? - Cyclocross Magazine2024-03-29T07:22:55Zhttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/forum/topics/why-do-i-keep-crashingwiping?commentId=1198434%3AComment%3A41380&feed=yes&xn_auth=noBringing that new ride to Coy…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2009-10-23:1198434:Comment:433472009-10-23T20:26:04.463ZFallDownGoBoomhttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/FallDownGoBoom2
Bringing that new ride to Coyote this Sun? If so, I'll be cheering/heckling you on, as usual.
Bringing that new ride to Coyote this Sun? If so, I'll be cheering/heckling you on, as usual. Wow thanks for all the info.…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2009-10-22:1198434:Comment:432872009-10-22T23:07:34.627ZHankhttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/HenryScholz
Wow thanks for all the info. I had no idea.<br />
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To clarify I went from the stock fork on an 07(?) Tricross Singlecross to a Rock Lobster with an Alpha Q cx20.
Wow thanks for all the info. I had no idea.<br />
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To clarify I went from the stock fork on an 07(?) Tricross Singlecross to a Rock Lobster with an Alpha Q cx20. Zach,
Your statement about fo…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2009-10-22:1198434:Comment:432852009-10-22T22:50:07.860Zandrewhttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/cyclocross
Zach,<br />
Your statement about forks actually isn't true. Now if the head angle is steeper on one frame, the steering will feel "quicker" because you've reduced the trail, but if you take a "more vertical" fork (I assume Hank means less rake) and compare it to one that has a longer rake (and thus less trail) for a given frame, that more vertical fork will actually steer slower. Think shopping carts - they are so twitchy with the wheels pointing forward, but super steady when backwards.<br />
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Not knowing…
Zach,<br />
Your statement about forks actually isn't true. Now if the head angle is steeper on one frame, the steering will feel "quicker" because you've reduced the trail, but if you take a "more vertical" fork (I assume Hank means less rake) and compare it to one that has a longer rake (and thus less trail) for a given frame, that more vertical fork will actually steer slower. Think shopping carts - they are so twitchy with the wheels pointing forward, but super steady when backwards.<br />
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Not knowing the geometry of both of hank's bikes and forks, it's hard to say the real effect, but (Hank) it's also important to note that a fork that is straight-legged doesn't necessarily have more trail (less rake) since it often has some offset. But the tricross compared to an easton (just a guess) is 51 vs. 45 I think, so in that case, it is more vertical, so if you were to swap forks on your old tricross frame, the easton would feel <b><i>slower</i></b>.<br />
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hope that all makes sense.<br />
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Here's a good explanation: <a href="http://www.phred.org/~josh/bike/trail.html" target="_blank">http://www.phred.org/~josh/bike/trail.html</a> Alright so finally got the ne…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2009-10-22:1198434:Comment:432842009-10-22T21:59:53.467ZHankhttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/HenryScholz
Alright so finally got the new bike all together and boy oh boy does it handle like a dream! I have a cable hanger and two spacers under the stem now and that made a world of a difference!I could be wrong but I feel like the new fork helps too. Hell new everything always help.
Alright so finally got the new bike all together and boy oh boy does it handle like a dream! I have a cable hanger and two spacers under the stem now and that made a world of a difference!I could be wrong but I feel like the new fork helps too. Hell new everything always help. A fork that is more vertical…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2009-10-22:1198434:Comment:432722009-10-22T19:19:20.191ZZachhttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/ZachRotstein
A fork that is more vertical is going to turn way more sharp and might make the problem worse. The best way to fix the problem is to<br />
1. Ride your cross bike as your primary to be used to the feel durring cross season.<br />
2. ride lots of trails<br />
3. circles on the grass going as tight as you can.<br />
4. counter weight and steering
A fork that is more vertical is going to turn way more sharp and might make the problem worse. The best way to fix the problem is to<br />
1. Ride your cross bike as your primary to be used to the feel durring cross season.<br />
2. ride lots of trails<br />
3. circles on the grass going as tight as you can.<br />
4. counter weight and steering I had this problem last year,…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2009-10-20:1198434:Comment:429942009-10-20T04:11:11.815ZIdahoBobhttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/IdahoBob
I had this problem last year, I would get a gap and overcook a corner, wipe-out and end up back in the group. I'm sure a little bit of the problem was that I was going hard trying to gap the guys behind me, but I flipped my stem from -5 to +5 this year and haven't yet crashed in a corner. The second change I made was going from tubeless hutchinson bulldogs to tubular fangos.<br />
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Not sure which was the key, but I feel better in the corners this year.<br />
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Good Luck
I had this problem last year, I would get a gap and overcook a corner, wipe-out and end up back in the group. I'm sure a little bit of the problem was that I was going hard trying to gap the guys behind me, but I flipped my stem from -5 to +5 this year and haven't yet crashed in a corner. The second change I made was going from tubeless hutchinson bulldogs to tubular fangos.<br />
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Not sure which was the key, but I feel better in the corners this year.<br />
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Good Luck 1. cyclocross tests bike hand…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2009-10-10:1198434:Comment:419962009-10-10T21:32:10.333Zmpapethttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/mpapet
1. cyclocross tests bike handling under extreme physical conditions. Your heart rate through the roof and attempting to stay very coordinated are mutually exclusive. Crashing is a part of learning your limits.<br />
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2. If you aren't counter-steering, then the chances you will crash while cornering are a great deal higher.<br />
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3. If you aren't steering with your hips and relaxing your shoulders, the chances you will crash are much higher.<br />
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If you are coming off a road bike that is fit for competition,…
1. cyclocross tests bike handling under extreme physical conditions. Your heart rate through the roof and attempting to stay very coordinated are mutually exclusive. Crashing is a part of learning your limits.<br />
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2. If you aren't counter-steering, then the chances you will crash while cornering are a great deal higher.<br />
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3. If you aren't steering with your hips and relaxing your shoulders, the chances you will crash are much higher.<br />
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If you are coming off a road bike that is fit for competition, you probably have too much weight 'forward.' I would consider a slightly shorter stem and more rise to get your weight back more. Other than that, practice 1-3. Hey hank - ah, now I know who…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2009-10-08:1198434:Comment:417702009-10-08T18:36:53.624Zandrewhttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/cyclocross
Hey hank - ah, now I know who you are. We chatted a bit after your race...you talked about your chain and ENO hub? You looked good out there, glad you're feeling more comfortable. You're strong...keep it up.<br />
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Hey hank - ah, now I know who you are. We chatted a bit after your race...you talked about your chain and ENO hub? You looked good out there, glad you're feeling more comfortable. You're strong...keep it up.<br />
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-A Also keeping weight on the ou…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2009-10-06:1198434:Comment:414982009-10-06T17:38:10.560ZCincicycleshttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/Michael
Also keeping weight on the outside leg in the turn puts more pressure downward increasing the contact patch of the tire to the ground. Are you washing out, falling inside the turn... or bucking over the bike to the outside?
Also keeping weight on the outside leg in the turn puts more pressure downward increasing the contact patch of the tire to the ground. Are you washing out, falling inside the turn... or bucking over the bike to the outside? Your pressure may be too low,…tag:cowbell.cxmagazine.com,2009-10-06:1198434:Comment:414972009-10-06T16:48:54.880ZCincicycleshttps://cowbell.cxmagazine.com/profile/Michael
Your pressure may be too low, allowing the tire to fold a bit bucking you off just a thought. Are you experimenting during the week with pressures, turns etc?
Your pressure may be too low, allowing the tire to fold a bit bucking you off just a thought. Are you experimenting during the week with pressures, turns etc?