Timing Chips for CX race ?

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Permalink Reply by Brent Chapman on December 21, 2010 at 9:09pm

Yes, we had them for crossaflixion in Bend during 2009. We had no problems, they were ankle bands. Results were fairly quick.
I think for a small race it just didn't pencil out.
I know some other promoters who did not have such good experiences with chips and cross

Permalink Reply by andrew on December 21, 2010 at 10:59pm

hey cx22, check with tom simpson, promoter of the bay area super prestige series here. he's in this group too, maybe PM him to get his attention.

he had a heck of a time using the chips this year - ESPECIALLY with multiple fields on the course. I'm not sure as to the exact challenges but after 2 or 3 races of trying it with inaccurate and slow results, he went back to the old fashion way with people and the results were a lot better.

so, maybe it's the company or technology you choose, but it's not that easy. dan norton somewhere on these forums said that it took the seattle series a few years to get it dialed. they have a system that only costs $2/rider for the whole season.

I'm not sure on the exact costs of the disposable system but entry fees went up $5/race here. good luck and keep us posted.

Permalink Reply by Brent Chapman on December 22, 2010 at 8:47am

Yah, I hear Tom knows all about this. I think sadly I heard Toms series is being retired so he may not be too active on the groups.
I have heard cross crusades also toyed with it and they have really large fields.

For our race we used milliseconds.com folks out of UT and one of the races was in the snow.

( by the way Tom, your races kicked my ass but also were the races that allowed me to start along side the nations best, just wanted to say thanks!)

Permalink Reply by Paul Avila on December 22, 2010 at 1:18pm

We used chips here in the SoCal Prestige Series and they were good. The initial cost is a bit steep but the results are way faster.

Permalink Reply by Tom Simpson on January 2, 2011 at 6:07pm

We reached the point last year where we couldn't produce results fast enough or with required accuracy to keep up with field sizes. We researched 4 different systems during the off-season, 3 using RFID chips from Alien using various software packages and one from New Zealand. We used and tested 2 of the contenders during our road season and learned heaps of lessons. Reslts were good with hese 2 bike-based systems but unlike road races we needed a system that would not be bike-based (not mounted on wheels or frame) and that could read chips/numbers spaced across a 20' wide finish line.

 

We had miserable results in this years 'cross season and abandoned our test after the 3rd of our 5 events. We resusitated our previous timing consultant and combined with longer courses, managed to finish the season with most brain (brane?) cells intact. We decided that we'd rely on our previous 20th century methods and continue to hand-score events in the future. The changes that we'll be making to our events won't be technological = they'll be logistical.

 

Our chosen vendor had a system that would still require a sophisticated programmer to operate and if it's one thing we are NOT - it's sophisticated. We didn;t see a system that we could turn over to one of our staff members, give them a short introduction and then say, "Go!". Asa Salas from Sacramento has a proven system and Dorthy Wong in SoCal has got a good comfort level with chips - we're just going focus on other parts of our events for our next level of investment.  

 

Tom Simpson

Pilarcitos Cyclesports